tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post6864996084028305472..comments2024-03-08T06:19:34.837-08:00Comments on Cindy Sheehan's Soapbox: Confessions of a (Real) Socialist by Cindy SheehanCindy Sheehan's Soapboxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17978116636437776423noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-26453709390239033032016-05-04T19:08:52.765-07:002016-05-04T19:08:52.765-07:00They are all the same: Clinton, Sanders, Trump, Cr...They are all the same: Clinton, Sanders, Trump, Cruz, etc. I'm voting for Gloria LaRiva, of the Party of Socialism and Liberation. U.S. voters must start voting for third-party candidates, in order to rid the country of the stranglehold of the Republocrats. And by the way, someone asked why Cindy remains in the country. That is her choice; I fled 11 years ago, shortly after Bush was elected. You will recall he was only appointed in 2000, but elected in 2004. That was the point where I said I need to leave. And I did. I've lived in Canada ever since.Robert Fantinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00808204908987069004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-2425790450090988912016-05-02T21:53:57.740-07:002016-05-02T21:53:57.740-07:00Bernie Sanders, on our greatest national security ...Bernie Sanders, on our greatest national security threat: "The scientific community is telling us, if we do not address the global crisis of climate change, transform our energy system away from fossil fuel to sustainable energy, the planet that we're gonna be leaving our kids and grandchildren may well not be habitable. That is a major crisis."<br />https://youtu.be/pGNHxZgb8WQ?t=35smattohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03593721877398587275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-82957968740527158032016-02-28T21:31:32.637-08:002016-02-28T21:31:32.637-08:00Well, your reasoning is seriously flawed. Germany ...Well, your reasoning is seriously flawed. Germany and Russia were going to go at it, no matter what. Hitler convinced a terrified populace than communism would be the end of German culture. There were something like 25 communist candidates in the election that was handed easily to the nazis. The wholesale slaughter in Russia after the revolution didn't go without notice from 1917-1932. Millions died or were enslaved by Stalin and his paranoia. The 'imperialists' in western Europe tried to sue for peace with the nazis. The US tried to stay out of the nonsense as long as possible, much as was done in WW1. Britain and France made conditions ripe for a Hitler by punishing Germany for it's role in WW1, and happily divvied up the German colonial holdings.<br />Japan was trying to protect their sphere of influence in the Pacific and wound up murdering uncountable millions in China and other countries. Mao took advantage to kill a few dozen million more in purges and famines. The typical conditions seen in all sociacommunist countries where people lie about grain harvests and new tractors to save their lives resulted in millions more to be starved and pogrommed.<br />No one has clean hands. But socialisms' has blood that will never be cleansed.<br />But, you can have the last word..B.Itemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07638704888442070554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-59791640426969777242016-02-28T07:40:15.978-08:002016-02-28T07:40:15.978-08:00Twenty-million dead in WWII when the imperialists ...Twenty-million dead in WWII when the imperialists went to war over who was going to come out on top, if we are going to mention atrocities in terms of numbers. Just a comment. The destruction of this war is what brought the U.S. and the world out of the Great Depression, if we one speak in terms of numbers.Stephen Durhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10516289121186121126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-62230069419596966502016-02-26T23:11:04.172-08:002016-02-26T23:11:04.172-08:00I must correct myself. The various Bolivarian regi...I must correct myself. The various Bolivarian regime changes were arguably the least destructive to the native populace. Still a lot of graves to be found, but nothing approaching the Asian/Soviet/European atrocities.B.Itemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07638704888442070554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-45002002937741093562016-02-24T16:42:50.246-08:002016-02-24T16:42:50.246-08:00You can have the last word. Good luck in your ende...You can have the last word. Good luck in your endeavors. Stephen Durhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10516289121186121126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-81055035737122850192016-02-22T17:18:26.383-08:002016-02-22T17:18:26.383-08:00Verbiage aside, niether you, Cindy,or any person o...Verbiage aside, niether you, Cindy,or any person on Earth can cite even one single socialist, populist or other anarchic insurgency that has ever come off without the horrifying death and destruction of the very people the 'liberators' sought to exploit. Not one.<br />Cindy fills space with rambling quasi intellectual screeds reprinted from the usual worker party suspects that go on ad nauseam about the greatness of Stalin, Mao And Minh. Do you, or she understand the cost in human death and misery that came as a result of the installation, at gunpoint, of so called socialist regimes in the countries stolen by those monsters?<br />All your psuedo political nonsense can't lay the carnage of the 20th century on the steps of the White House. <br />If Cindy abhors war, famine, human rights abuse and death the way she says, then she should see the truth of her 'convictions' and admit her hypocrisy. So should you. <br />What on Earth would you have-the murky slide into cultural oblivion of SocDem Europe, or the quick death of uncountable millions in Asia. Or, putting all that aside, perhaps you would choose our middle eastern nutballs as our new temperate and inclusive overlords?B.Itemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07638704888442070554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-24498951360690805252016-02-21T12:56:13.253-08:002016-02-21T12:56:13.253-08:00No, Kevin McAvoy, you are not insane. But isn'...No, Kevin McAvoy, you are not insane. But isn't is the duty of those of us born in this country to try to do the best we can to make this the kind of place where humanity can survive and flourish--something which cannot be separated from the conditions perpetuated by Wall Street and the military industrial complex whose home we share? Yes, you are right that socialism has never come to a full realization yet on this planet precisely because it still remains an unrealized project due to the lack of fundamental change in class relations in the most advanced and powerful capitalist countries, i.e. Western Europe and the the U.S. Your hopelessness for an egalitarian future reflects the cynicism present in the dominant capitalist culture surrounding us. This culture is perpetuated by the the U.S. ruling class whose existence depends on continued destruction of both national and worldwide human and natural resources to survive. I thought I'd share this with you as my contribution to the discussion which I see as a positive effort in making this country better by supporting those I identify with, working people and the multiply oppressed.Stephen Durhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10516289121186121126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-27069738476692331602016-02-19T18:01:59.860-08:002016-02-19T18:01:59.860-08:00Thank you for your comment, Stephen.
Thank you for your comment, Stephen.<br /><br />Cindy Sheehan's Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17978116636437776423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-30638054302463989682016-02-19T17:44:37.745-08:002016-02-19T17:44:37.745-08:00Your points about Bernie marching lock-step with t...Your points about Bernie marching lock-step with the aims of the military industrial complex are right on! If he were serious about funding his reforms, i.e. free education through college and universal quality healthcare, he'd talk about dismantling the Pentagon. There is no socialism without a genuine internationalism in every way and that means mutual respect and solidarity among all the world's peoples which we in the heartland of world imperialism need to begin showing we stand for today. The scientific aspect of socialism is based on the irrationality of capitalism in its last stage-world imperialism. I remain an optimist and join you in continuing to fight for a better world, Cindy.Stephen Durhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10516289121186121126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-3770695637722554432016-02-19T09:51:52.635-08:002016-02-19T09:51:52.635-08:00I think you have it all wrong. I ask, in all serio...I think you have it all wrong. I ask, in all seriousness, why you continue to rail against the US, and then stay here. I'm not trying to bait you, or debate you. You must know that the kind of 'socialism' you are so fond of does not, nor ever has existed in human history. If you don't, or can't see this, then you are exemplifying the maxim of the definition of insanity. <br />If this country troubles you so, then please go to a place that you do like. <br />You are doing nothing to help this country. <br />But,I know no one will read this, so maybe I am insane as well.B.Itemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07638704888442070554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-34239725869575546802016-02-18T23:19:52.840-08:002016-02-18T23:19:52.840-08:00thank YOU!thank YOU!Cindy Sheehan's Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17978116636437776423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-21479611701439389002016-02-18T23:19:41.477-08:002016-02-18T23:19:41.477-08:00thank you!thank you!Cindy Sheehan's Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17978116636437776423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-69412595803072156172016-02-18T23:19:29.137-08:002016-02-18T23:19:29.137-08:00thank you!thank you!Cindy Sheehan's Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17978116636437776423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-6665189918719951412016-02-18T23:19:14.593-08:002016-02-18T23:19:14.593-08:00"Holistic Socialism"
Love it!
Thanks for..."Holistic Socialism"<br />Love it!<br />Thanks for your comments, Will.<br />CCindy Sheehan's Soapboxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17978116636437776423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-43044508839722442622016-02-18T23:01:40.921-08:002016-02-18T23:01:40.921-08:00Hello Cindy, thank you for this presentation of &q... Hello Cindy, thank you for this presentation of "Organic Socialism"<br /> We met in Denver '04 at the Mercury Cafe, with a true bunch of Organic Socialists, yourself, Medea, McKinney, Evans, much thanks to Susan Harman for introducing me to the advocates for our kind of Socialism; Which, i have tuned in to wondering or recent, 'what kind of Socialist am i'...?.. certainly not a Democratic Socialist... i think you've coined the essence with 'Organic Socialism' ...so spiritually pertinent. 'Organic Socialism' Definitely deserves some mental consideration. <br /> i see donating to Sanders campaign as a swing at HC. And the thrill of either seeing Sanders beat HC or just embarrassing the DNC/DLC/New Democrats/ ...if that's possible. A two-bit peanut farmer from Georgia makes it to POTUS seems even more possible for a Bernie Sanders to be the next POTUS.<br /> Clearly his war record is almost as bad as HC. I don't think the list noted the Suppression of Freedoms for voicing grievances either; Like the Domestic Terror legislation. <br /> An interesting unknown: Who will Sanders pick for a VP? Plz don't say Lizzy, Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran, Warren...SheeeshLouise <br /> I wish Sanders would be more incisive with the current regime; with some consistency...with some measure of alacrity...and sorrow for his past mistakes !... but that's not going to happen here in reality. In spite of his record i still donated. He does offer some consolations that make it worth Donating TO! <br /> i don't think he can skate around or dance over the Palestine Land grab; he will have to come out and say how biased and partial he is or NOT. Sanders will not be able to straddle the Israel Wall...<br /> The deception (ala IDF/Mossad) by which they divide and conquer is staring right as us... i don't think were getting played by throwing a few bucks to his campaign. i don't think donating to his campaign makes me less of a Organic Socialist. But if Trump starts to prosecute war criminals and torture, and bankers for crashing the economy, tells Israel to go to hell... he could get my vote. Foreign Policy dictates Domestic Policy and he's such an F5 flip-flopp'n fool he might just flip flop my way...Unlike HC the Neo-libs Lib, curse of Satan and friend of Israel... deserves to be beaten in my opinion. <br /> Perhaps a Sanders / Trump ticket :0 jk.<br /> my new meds are kicking in <br /> Will, <br /> Billings, Montana<br /> ps how 'bout Holistic Socialism <..><br /> Darwin26https://www.blogger.com/profile/06173252795925537018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-84011712440807283102016-02-18T15:21:51.882-08:002016-02-18T15:21:51.882-08:00Thanks for stating it as things really are.
Alan ...Thanks for stating it as things really are.<br /><br />Alan L. MakiTaking It To The Streetshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11438922800831387918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-65469033576982477132016-02-18T10:41:40.171-08:002016-02-18T10:41:40.171-08:00Excellent post.
It is unfortunate that people are...Excellent post.<br /><br />It is unfortunate that people are putting on such blinders in their support of Sanders. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08688700377922589383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6998867759586853536.post-9621394684745630522016-02-18T07:40:32.214-08:002016-02-18T07:40:32.214-08:00Cindy,
I come from a totally different political ...Cindy,<br /><br />I come from a totally different political background than you. But, factually, you are correct in your assessment of Bernie Sanders and of both of these parties.<br /><br />My best,<br /><br />-Patrick<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00460640532413461233noreply@blogger.com